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radiumgirl ([personal profile] radiumgirl) wrote2011-03-29 08:45 pm

Second Person Twice Removed

I like writing in second-person narrative. I've utilized it in fanfic, original fic, and poetry with generally positive responses. I'm stuck in the mud with Radium Girl, and I've never used it for non-fiction, nor have I heard of it being utilized very often in the genre (though I'm more than happy to acknowledge my ignorance if anyone knows of any examples), so I'm experimenting.

Go forth, my little lab rats. Eat this tainted cheese and let me pick your brains. This is a super-short segment from the first (of three) sections in Radium Girl that I've rewritten in second-person, so it's pretty rough, but before I go ahead and do a large-scale rewrite, I would love some insight. 

I'm concerned that it just doesn't work in a non-fiction narrative. Is it weird to be writing about myself and referring to myself as "you?" Is it a cop-out? I'm particularly worried about it being a cop-out because when I write about the really shitty times, I find it much easier to write about it with a buffer between us. Then again, maybe this just an elaborate way for me to write about the bad things I've done without actually taking responsibility for them? 

This actually isn't a dark segment though, so don't worry. The angst is at a minimum. I don't even cuss in this segment. (I know, crazy, right?)  This is just a quick and dirty rewrite for the sake of driving the shiny new narrative around. 


When you were five, you got your tonsils out. "Routine," the dark-haired doctor lady said, "It's routine. A perfectly standard procedure."

Yours wasn't routine.

Something went wrong and you had a seizure in the recovery room. It didn't hurt. You don't remember it hurting. You got to ride in a helicopter, but you don't remember that either. Apparently, you were dying. The dark-haired doctor told your dad that you were dying and he wanted to know why. She didn't know why. "It was a routine procedure," she said, like it still mattered.

You spent three days dying, and you don't remember it. You don't remember a white light or angels or anything like that even though your mom told your neighbors and your cousins and your grandparents that you did and that it was all that you would talk about when you woke up on the morning of the fourth day of your dying.

You asked her to change the channel on the television. When you woke up in the tiny glass ICU room on the morning of the fourth day, Sesame Street was on the small, silent, TV mounted in the corner. You hated Sesame Street and very carefully, very quietly asked if you could watch Barney the Dinosaur instead. Your mother very slowly reached up and turned the knob off, then quietly walked into the hallway where you saw the broad stretch of your dad's shoulders hunched over a Styrofoam cup of cold coffee.

There were no angels.

There was a nurse in blue and yellow scrubs who had a gap-tooth smile, who told you that you could have fresh pajamas after the doctor checked you out. She said you could have a bath. She said that if the doctor said it was okay, later on, she could unhook some of those monitors; the leds on your chest that you kept scratching at, the tube in your nose that felt too tight. You asked about the IV in your hand, the plastic splint wrapped beneath your palm to keep you from dislodging the needle. She said, "No. That one has to stay a little longer, okay, sweetie?"

You asked her if she could change the channel. You hated Sesame Street, you said. You asked for Barney the Dinosaur.

"Everyone is just so happy you're awake," she said.

You remember all of this. You don't remember any white light. In fact, if your mother had never mentioned it, you would have never even thought about it. You wonder how many things wouldn't matter if you didn't know about them, like the seizure. You don't remember having it. As far as you're concerned, you fell asleep in Freehold Hospital and woke up in Jersey Shore Medical Center and the three days in between and what you did during those three days, would be completely inconsequential if you hadn't been told that you spent them dying.

You were a glass figurine after that, locked up on the highest shelf of the china cabinet. Before the not-routine, you took gymnastics and played on a tee-ball team. You crashed your bike and jumped off of stairs and weren't afraid to pet strange dogs and cats because no one told you that you should be.  






[identity profile] wishflthinkr.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
I think the second person voice works for something short like this, but I'm not sure about something very long. It seems a form of voice best suited for shorter things, maybe because we're so accustomed to reading first or third person in longer works. Maybe because it, in some way, affords more of a disconnect, which I think is maybe the opposite of what you want readers to feel when reading something autobiographical.

That being said, I enjoyed it!

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for reading!

The disconnect is definitely a concern. I even feel a disconnect to an extent when I'm writing in it, which makes it a breeze to get through the parts I don't particularly want to revisit, buuuut...might ultimately defeat the purpose of writing it in the first place.

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm on the fence. It's an interesting piece and forces you - me - to have a connection with it all. I just can't help but feel that I'd rather know I'm reading about your life rather than it being self-directed. You're the gal with the English major so you know best, but I like things simple.

I had a dream last night that I put 10p into a slot machine and won £40. See, simple.

<3

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
You're the gal with the English major so you know best...

Nooo. This is a fallacy and a lie. In fact, last week, I had a grammar question while I was drafting a letter for Boss and I didn't dare ask anyone in my office for input because I knew it would be all, "Don't you have a degree in that?"

Heh.

I have an idea though and it might be an awesome idea and it might be an awful idea, so, we'll see.

That's a nice dream!

I...had a dream about banging a transvestite. I'm not sure how to take that one. I mean, it wasn't bad, but it was a little bit awkward.

<3

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
I can't even remember anything about the English language. I was one of those people who did NO WORK yet managed to get a B in both Eng. Lit and Language for our compulsary exams. I always wonder what could've happened if I actually *tried*.

Your dream sounds fun. Awkward, but fun. I was about to say you should be dreaming about Owen, but I don't even know if I've dreamt about Paul at all. Winchester dreams are better anyway. ;-)

I had chicken soup for breakfast. Awesome.

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I think LJ was down all day. I was like DDD: forever.

But here's what I wrote:


It was a pretty fun dream. There was alot of pink glitter and blonde wigs. IDK.

My academic skills are bipolar. I kick so much ass in English and language without trying, which is why I majored in it even though I knew it was going to be hard to find a job that I didn't hate with that degree. I'm good with history if it's something I find interesting (which is most things), I'm decent at science (again, if I find it interesting) and I just FAIL at math. I busted my butt in high school to get a C half the time. Honestly, I can barely add.

I had cereal for breakfast. It was okay. Fail!salad and an apple for lunch. No idea what's for dinner.* I have to run to Adventureland after work and do paperwork, so I'll probably just cook. There's nothing near the park except for a gas station and a diner.

* I made spaghetti. It was pretty awesome.

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! Fail LJ. Epic. Fail. *clings*

Spaghetti sounds awesome, I'm just in the car after picking my sister up from a Mcfly concert. I'm going to another free theatre show tomorrow.... "probably the campest ballet you'll ever see".

Yay men in tights and tutu's!

I had to bribe my sister with tea beforehand at a bar. It'll be nice, just... I am poor enough! XD

Damn you, LJ. Putting a halt to our conversations.

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
*sigh*

Mmm. Men in tights.

I'm helping Gabe edit a paper for a class he has in...oohhh...ten minutes. He offered me $10 and a movie night.

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, how could you refuse?! *Grin* Have a good night!

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh, I couldn't refuse at all.

1. EDITING YAY!

2. Gabe is pretty. He looks like Zachary Levi.

3. One day, Gabe is going to run for president. I'm going to write his speeches. It's going to be awesome.

^_^

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Only you would be 'yay' at editing! *Glomp*

And pretty is good. I had to google the guy you mentioned, but... yes. I could spent an evening looking at him. <3

When you're living at the White House, lemme know. I'll come visit for sure.

I was listening to a Bowling for Soup song earlier called "I Can't Stand L.A." It goes on about different cities, then is like...

"I like Salt Lake City, Portland, Frisco, Santa Fe

Indianappolis and Hartford, too

Boise, Memphis, Souix Falls, and of course KC

Along with Pittsburg and Kalamazoo"


I am easily entertained. :D ♥

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
*glomp*

Hehe, Zachary Levi is adorkable. And he's in my 2nd/3rd fave show (it alternates) after Supernatural...CHUCK! Chuck was better two seasons ago, but I'm committed...even though I kinda hope it doesn't get renewed for a 5th season because the 3rd and 4th have sucked REALLY BAD.

You can totes come visit. I'll see if Gabe will repeal that anti-flip-flop rule. He might. He's a Democrat.

I've never heard "I Can't Stand LA!" That's so cool though! Not only are they both in the song, but they're in the SAME LINE! AWW! I love Bowling for Soup!

I love "Ohio (Come Back to Texas)" and whenever I sing the bridge, I replace "the Bush twins" with "Jensen Ackles" because...well...fuck the Bush twins. Heee.

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Ohhhh I love the Come Back to Texas song too. It's so catchy and lovely. I'm actually going to see BFS next week! My sister and I have VIP tickets to meet them first before the show, and to be fair I'm thinking now.. why?! I don't wanna meet them! LOL.

Well, it's not actually BFS, it's Jaret and Erik on an "acoustic tour", but last year it was better than the actual BFS tour. I like acoustic, and they're both awesome.

I've never seen 'Chuck', better add it to that list of shows that I should at least see the first episode of.

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I want to see BFS live! My brother and his friend saw them a few years ago and said they were awesome. I have to make do with the live album. :(

Have fun!

Ohhh, the Chuck pilot is actually really good. If you only watch one episode, it has to be the pilot. It's great.

The show has really good music too. It introduced me to the awesome that is Frightened Rabbit.

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I might give it a shot tomorrow if I get time! <3

I'm snuggling up for bed now, so speak tomorrow. *hugs* 'Night.

_thinks thoughts of a 6'4", tanned, messy-haired tree_

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yay! <3

Goodnight! Enjoy your tree!

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Hee. ♥

I know I'll just end up dreaming about you now. ;-)

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 11:18 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't dream about anything! Never mind... How are you today?

<3

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh no!

I'm pretty good. I got to work late, so I'm stuck here til 4. It's all rainy and gross, so I stopped at Dunkin' Donuts on the way in for coffee because DD's coffee is liquid crack.

I'm alternating between working on For Keeps stuff, Radium Girl stuff, and actual, you know, work-that-I-get-paid-to-do stuff, while reading Minor Characters (which might just kill my glorious future!dissertation plans) and stealthily LJing via gmail.

Whooo multitasking.

How are you? <3

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
LJ seems to be having another go-slow day for me, but at least it's working. It's really sunny outside but windy too so it cancels out the niceness! I am just getting ready really slowly to go out, planning to get home around 4 and then Steph and I will go to the theatre. It should be entertaining. *Nod*

Yay for multitasking! It's a skill. You're just developing a skill, that's what you can say if anybody enquires.

<3

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Boo wind. What are you doing today? What show are you and your sister going to see?

I'm a multitasking god...no one ELSE sees it that way...but I do. XD

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the men-in-tights comedy ballet. Should be... An experience.

I do too! I shall vouch for you. <3 I can't wait to get a job... I am kinda thinking if I don't get anything in the round of interviews I am going for at the moment, I just need to get any job, not social work. I will be an office gal or anything really. I don't think my current job has any full-time vacancies which sucks.

Somebody actually insinuated on LJ that I was lazy and I thought fuck I am.

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
The men-in-tights ballet will be awesome....or something.

It sucks not having a job when you want one. It's frustrating. I've been in that boat. I feel your pain. *hugs*

I can't believe somebody would say that! I never understand why people get bitchy on the internet. It's the freaking internet.

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, they weren't being super-rude. They were joking that my laziness would have affect on my ability to act on lust.. or something... *shrug* :D

I will get a job at some point, I'm sure, but I just want one given to me rather than trying really hard. I've even been applying to do voluntary work since January and that's still being processed through the system.

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, laziness has no effect on LUST! That's silly! Lust overpowers ALL.

Job hunting is seriously the most frustrating, pain-in-the-butt task ever. It always felt like such as waste of time, to me, when I would try so hard and go on interviews, and completely rearrange my life sometimes to get to these things...only to have it all have been for nothing.

And then, I get a job, and it's SO not what I wanted.

I hate that volunteer work is so complicated too. It's VOLUNTEER work. They should be overjoyed that anyone wants to do it, but every time I applied for stuff like that, it ended up being a more convoluted process than some job applications. (I wanted to serve in Americorp SO BAD, got denied after spending MONTHS writing letters and going to interviews and downsizing my life and not doing drugs, and I'm still slightly bitter over it.) Especially when you know you'd be good at it and enjoy it and be a real asset.

Something will come along though. Eventually! *hug*

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! Volunteering should be EASY!

We're just on the bus now :-) It's quite empty which is nice -- last week there were so many people and I can't be dealing with people practically sitting on my lap, heh. I'd let Sam or Dean, but... Noone else!

My sister just said 'are you still emailing that girl? You told me about her three weeks ago... Don't you run out of things to talk about?' XD

We just talk about life, don't we? And occasional fangirl-related squee. <3

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
The bus is awful when it's full. Whenever I rode it, if I ended up standing, I'd inevitably end up in someone's lap as soon as the driver took a turn too tightly. >.<

We'll NEVER run out of things to talk about (insert evil laughter here). NEVERRRRR. That's the awesome part about moving past being mere co-fangirls. <3

[identity profile] si-star-x.livejournal.com 2011-03-31 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Hehe, it's true! *Hug*

I just had sausage 'n' mash for tea and now Steph's having her obligatory cigarette before we go inside.

She's telling me about her rebellious drunken shenanigans.. She's only 17! Naughty girl.

[identity profile] thinlizzy2.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
I love 2nd person narratives when they're done well. It messes with my head in a very enjoyable way!

[identity profile] radiumgirl.livejournal.com 2011-03-30 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
The first time I ever had to read anything in second person, I hated it and I was like, "what-the-eff is this crap and why would you ever ever ever want to write in it?"

I was thirteen. Eleven years later and I'm pretty much obsessed with it because of the what-the-eff factor. XD